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> Pploco Sti-defiling a 914, Subaru conversion perversion
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post Apr 5 2019, 03:47 PM
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I figure its high time to start sharing my subaru conversion progress with y'all. I'm new to the 914 and have been silently lurking on the site gleaning as much knowledge as possible. I'm a few months into the conversion, and decided to gather up my pictures and start sharing.

Several years ago I shoe-horned a turbo subaru 2.0 into a 73 beetle

73 Subaru Conversion

I had an ABSOLUTE BLAST flogging that poor little thing. But I quickly learned that the bug was not a very safe platform for a 300hp subaru engine. I could dust anything off the line and actually pull the front wheels off the ground. But it was a scary handful on the freeway. I ended up selling it and have missed that angry little blue bug ever since.

I've always loved the 914, and have watched from the fringes as they creep up and up in value. So when two basket cases popped up locally on craigslist, I decided it was time to jump back in and do a proper conversion

Lucky for me, I found these on a 2'fer one deal:

74:

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73:

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The PO had stuffed a Pontiac v6 in the 73. He totally scabbed the conversion together - especially the cooling. No radiator fan, square tubing for coolant lines - its ugly. Not surprising, he cooked the motor. Then let it sit outside and rust. The interior is in excellent shape, but the rockers, longs, hell hole, and door jams are pretty bad.

The 74 had been stripped and "prepped" for paint. His reality of "prepped" boarders on insanity. He was planning a LS conversion but didn't get any further than stripping it down and spraying it with john deere yellow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

It basically came home in boxes. But, I picked them both up for $1500, then sold the 1.7 and trans from the 74 for $1K. Not a bad deal at all.

I'm planning to use the 74 as my base. It has some hell hole issues and a few rust spots, but the longs are in pretty good shape and the pan is mostly solid. I'll use the 73 for an interior parts car.

Now for a motor porn teaser - This is what I put together last weekend (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

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post Apr 5 2019, 03:49 PM
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Project plans:

This is going to be an evolving post as the project progresses. I would describe myself as a weekend warrior with fake sick to work in the garage once in a while tenancies. So my timeline is wide open as to when I'll likely have this wrapped up. I do have to hurry though. My 13 year old son has decided he loves to weld and fab and he is eyeing the '73 as his first car. If I'm going to have interior and various parts, I've got to move quickly. Since the driving age in Idaho is 15, I figure I've got less than 2 years to be at least driving this beast.

My goal is to have the motor and trans ready to mock in, then they'll go on a shelf for the fabbing and rust repair. I'll then prep and paint. Having done a few projects like this in the past - there is nothing worse than having to cut a freshly painted car to fit something for the conversion. I want paint and interior to be the last things I do.

Admittedly, I can be a bit scattered on these projects because of the way they have to share space on my priority list with family, work, and other important commitments. So I try to only tackle jobs I know I can finish in the time and budget that I have available - if that makes sense. So while there might appear to be madness to my approach, I promise there's a method to the madness.

My plans (as of May 2019)

Motor:
2008 EJ257 STI block bored +.5mm
Timesert head bolt anchors
2008 OEM STI crank with nitride coating
OEM STI rods with ARP rod bolts
King racing main and rod bearings
Manley forged and skirted pistons
ARP head studs
Heads - 2004 OEM with single AVCS
- new OEM valves and guides
Stock exhaust and uppipe
Turbo - Cobb 20g
ECU - 2004 STI stock with Cobb AP tuner
Harness - 2004 STI stock, custom by Jeff Robenolt @ AutoVentures LLC

Cooling
Toyota Celica GT radiator
Fozenboost Water/Air intercooler

Transmission
'04 WRX 5 speed

Body
Color:still undecided - narrowed down to porsche red, black, olympic blue
GT flares(?) still on the fence here. I love the GT flares on a black or dark blue, but not on red or light blue

Misc Conversion
Coldwater cradle and trans hanger
JDM STI clutch master
Celica GT or MR2 shifter
Zero Decibel bell hanger shift linkage
Subaru STI fuel assembly/pump
Heat and A/C
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post Apr 5 2019, 03:57 PM
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More of the '74:

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post Apr 5 2019, 04:02 PM
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I wanted to see what the PO's "fix" to the hell hole looked like. So I grabbed my wire wheel and started cleaning. Before long, bolt heads appeared - what the....

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I should also mention that this was under about a 1/2 inch of what looked like roofing tar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
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post Apr 5 2019, 04:08 PM
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Sorry folks... I have a whole slew of photos to share, but google isn't cooperating. Stay tuned...
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post Apr 5 2019, 04:40 PM
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Welcome to the forum!! Looking forward to seeing the build develop.

Looks like the PO sold you the little-known early IKEA version of the 914; it arrived flat-packed, and you simply bolt it together.

Not really.

But seriously, that looks terrifying. You have some challenging body work ahead....!

- Tony

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post Apr 5 2019, 06:29 PM
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Those FI parts in the front trunk may have some value, just saying we have a buy/sell forum.

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post Apr 5 2019, 06:39 PM
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post Apr 5 2019, 06:50 PM
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post Apr 7 2019, 11:28 AM
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I’m in Boise for a family thing this weekend, so I had a chance to meet Scott and see his project. This is going to be a great “sleeper” car, and Scott is a nice addition to the 914 community. Best of all, his young son is a car guy (he’s welding up a buggy!) and wants to eventually build the spare/parts 914 — so Scott is getting the next generation into our cars. Scott also has great knowledge of Subaru engines. Keep an eye on this build!!
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This looks like its going to be a great build. Get in touch with @michiganmatt. He just did a killer build that is similar.

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post Apr 8 2019, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(strawman @ Apr 7 2019, 11:28 AM) *

I’m in Boise for a family thing this weekend, so I had a chance to meet Scott and see his project. This is going to be a great “sleeper” car, and Scott is a nice addition to the 914 community. Best of all, his young son is a car guy (he’s welding up a buggy!) and wants to eventually build the spare/parts 914 — so Scott is getting the next generation into our cars. Scott also has great knowledge of Subaru engines. Keep an eye on this build!!



Thanks for swinging by on Saturday, it was great to pick your brain for a bit!
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post Apr 8 2019, 09:14 AM
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All right, lets kick this off properly. No 914 rustoration would be complete without a trip down to hell. The PO waxed poetic on all of his extensive work to fix the hell hole. He said that he had "installed" patch panels and sealed them with rust inhibiting treatment. I think he mentioned POR15.

Once I got the car in my garage, I started cleaning things up and sorting through the parts, I noticed there was something a little off with the "patched" areas. After a little wire wheel action, I see this:

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Then this:

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Pictures don't do this custom work justice. This patch was a good inch thick with
what looked like fiber filler and tar.


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Before I got too crazy with the cutting and welding, I decided to check the door gaps to make sure. Everything checked out. But I was worried that the PO had done similar repairs in other areas and covered them up with the lovely Walmart tractor yellow.

I went around the car and tested door jams, trunks, fenders, sail panels - all the nooks and crannys that might have other surprises waiting. I did find a nice bondo monument to middle school dropout bodywork in the rear trunk, and a few small cover ups on the sail panels, but overall this is a pretty solid car.

Oh, and if anyone is interested I have a set of slightly used hell hole patch panels that I'd sell for super cheap.

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post Apr 8 2019, 09:20 AM
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Actually, one of mine was similar with spray foam, copper sheet and tar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)


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post Apr 8 2019, 09:39 AM
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I started cutting back to find solid metal. Luckily, the long wasn't bad, and I probably cut more out of the inner fender well than I needed. There was definitely one annoying little corner in the firewall that was a booger to clean up.

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It was nice to see that the inside of the long wasn't completely rotten. I probed with my chisel and body hammer and found a little spot at the bottom of the long.

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But there was solid metal to work with. Sorry for the shady picture..

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I was relieved to see some factory primer peeking through the sides and bottom. Once I vacuumed all the rust and flake out, it looked pretty good overall. I didn't get a good picture, but just in front of the firewall toward the front of the car is all factory primed metal. I'll have to open up the bottom and weld in a patch, but it should be minimal. My plan is to open it up, clean and scrape and then treat with phospho and some frame wax.

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