Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Dash / Instrument Lights Problem Unresolved
JimVG
post Mar 10 2025, 12:59 PM
Post #1


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 38
Joined: 10-October 24
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 28,402
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



I have researched this problem on this site, and I still cannot correct the issue of no dash/instrument lights on a 1973 914.

The Problem
When key is ON, and the headlight switch is in the ON position none of the instrument light bulbs illuminate. Turning the headlight switch dimmer has no effect. All fuses tested functional.

Testing Procedure
Using a test light that is properly grounded with the headlight switch ON and the dimmer turned to HIGH:
There is no power to headlight switch terminal 58a or 58b (Fuse #7 is functional).
Using a separate test wire with a working bulb connected to headlight switch terminal 58b and the opposite end plugged into an instrument bulb socket the bulb does not illuminate.
Using the same test wire connected to terminal headlight switch 56k (empty and has power) plugged into the same instrument bulb socket the bulb does illuminate (dimmer not functional).

Please advise.

Your time and consideration is appreciated!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
emerygt350
post Mar 10 2025, 01:27 PM
Post #2


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,663
Joined: 20-July 21
From: Upstate, NY
Member No.: 25,740
Region Association: North East States



I would suspect your switch dimmer is bad. I pulled mine and just bypassed the dimmer. New switches can be purchased I believe. If you pull the switch you can test it by sending 12 past the pot.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ClayPerrine
post Mar 10 2025, 01:52 PM
Post #3


Life's been good to me so far.....
***************

Group: Admin
Posts: 16,183
Joined: 11-September 03
From: Hurst, TX.
Member No.: 1,143
Region Association: NineFourteenerVille



QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Mar 10 2025, 02:27 PM) *

I would suspect your switch dimmer is bad. I pulled mine and just bypassed the dimmer. New switches can be purchased I believe. If you pull the switch you can test it by sending 12 past the pot.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

The potentiometers are notorious about failing from age. Simple to bypass it and just wire the instrument lights to the park lights.

User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
barefoot
post Mar 10 2025, 03:38 PM
Post #4


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,354
Joined: 19-March 13
From: Charleston SC
Member No.: 15,673
Region Association: South East States



QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 10 2025, 03:52 PM) *

QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Mar 10 2025, 02:27 PM) *

I would suspect your switch dimmer is bad. I pulled mine and just bypassed the dimmer. New switches can be purchased I believe. If you pull the switch you can test it by sending 12 past the pot.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

The potentiometers are notorious about failing from age. Simple to bypass it and just wire the instrument lights to the park lights.

For my 76, the instrument lights do come on with parking lights, key off.
BTW all are changed to LED's now I can see much better.
Barefoot
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
JimVG
post Mar 11 2025, 06:39 AM
Post #5


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 38
Joined: 10-October 24
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 28,402
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



QUOTE(barefoot @ Mar 10 2025, 04:38 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 10 2025, 03:52 PM) *

QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Mar 10 2025, 02:27 PM) *

I would suspect your switch dimmer is bad. I pulled mine and just bypassed the dimmer. New switches can be purchased I believe. If you pull the switch you can test it by sending 12 past the pot.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

The potentiometers are notorious about failing from age. Simple to bypass it and just wire the instrument lights to the park lights.

For my 76, the instrument lights do come on with parking lights, key off.
BTW all are changed to LED's now I can see much better.
Barefoot


Thank you for your replies. I would like to bypass the rheostat. Is there any reason why I cannot connect to another blade on the switch that powers the parking lights? I believe that this would allow me to have instrument lights on when either the parking lights or headlights are on.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
emerygt350
post Mar 11 2025, 06:56 AM
Post #6


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,663
Joined: 20-July 21
From: Upstate, NY
Member No.: 25,740
Region Association: North East States



QUOTE(JimVG @ Mar 11 2025, 07:39 AM) *

QUOTE(barefoot @ Mar 10 2025, 04:38 PM) *

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 10 2025, 03:52 PM) *

QUOTE(emerygt350 @ Mar 10 2025, 02:27 PM) *

I would suspect your switch dimmer is bad. I pulled mine and just bypassed the dimmer. New switches can be purchased I believe. If you pull the switch you can test it by sending 12 past the pot.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

The potentiometers are notorious about failing from age. Simple to bypass it and just wire the instrument lights to the park lights.

For my 76, the instrument lights do come on with parking lights, key off.
BTW all are changed to LED's now I can see much better.
Barefoot


Thank you for your replies. I would like to bypass the rheostat. Is there any reason why I cannot connect to another blade on the switch that powers the parking lights? I believe that this would allow me to have instrument lights on when either the parking lights or headlights are on.


I believe that is what I did as well.

I also put in all leds on the dash except the oil and gen lights.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
JeffBowlsby
post Mar 11 2025, 07:44 AM
Post #7


914 Wiring Harnesses
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,846
Joined: 7-January 03
From: San Ramon CA
Member No.: 104
Region Association: None



Circuitry for the switches is here:

https://bowlsby.net/914/WiringHarnesses/doc...ashSwitches.pdf
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
JimVG
post Mar 11 2025, 08:08 AM
Post #8


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 38
Joined: 10-October 24
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 28,402
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Mar 11 2025, 08:44 AM) *


Thank you, Jeff. I found your previous posts. My car is a 1973 with an 11 blade switch as shown on your 1974 diagram. I attempted to simply bypass the rheostat by connecting together the wires that were on 58a and 58b as you have suggested, but that did not illuminate the instrument lights.

I am not concerned with restoring the dimmer function. What headlight switch terminal would be best to take power from that would allow instrument illumination when the parking lights and/or the headlights are on and still be a safe connection?

I have read where others attempting this have had electrical problems (blown fuses and under-dash fires), so I want to insure that I am avoiding that possibility at all costs!

Thanks again!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
JeffBowlsby
post Mar 11 2025, 12:35 PM
Post #9


914 Wiring Harnesses
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,846
Joined: 7-January 03
From: San Ramon CA
Member No.: 104
Region Association: None



Do you have power at 58b? You should, and if so, the lights should work. If not, chase the power circuit upstream until you find the issue. Use the wiring schematic to see how it all works.
User is online!Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
JimVG
post Mar 11 2025, 02:32 PM
Post #10


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 38
Joined: 10-October 24
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Member No.: 28,402
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



I used a "Power Probe III" to trace the problem back to the fuse block.

Thanks again, Jeff, and all others who replied.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 12th March 2025 - 04:57 AM