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Took a long ride in a Cayman |
PanelBilly |
Jan 16 2022, 10:59 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,797 Joined: 23-July 06 From: Kent, Wa Member No.: 6,488 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Went to breakfast with the PCA folks yesterday and rode in my friend’s 2008 Cayman. After spending 2 hours in the car I concluded that it wasn’t the car for me. I had thought that adding a newer pcar to the family would be fun and that the older midengine would be a smart choice. It just didn’t make me smile like the 914. When we were done with breakfast the line of cars all looked alike. I noticed that people notice more about the color of these cars than the lines of the body. No visual excitement
I need to get my locks fixed and get my car back on the road! |
Superhawk996 |
Jan 16 2022, 11:12 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,744 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
I noticed that people notice more about the color of these cars than the lines of the body. No visual excitement (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Welcome to modern automobiles. Porsche's used to be distinct. Both to the rest of the automotive world and also within the brand. They were so distinct, even my wife could ID them by visual appearance. Now at 1/8 mile I can't tell a Cayman from a 911 from a Macan from a Panamera. After 25 years in the industry, I love the 914 even more for what it is. Even more for the fact that it is everything a modern car isn't. |
slivel |
Jan 16 2022, 11:29 AM
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Old car....... older driver Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 10-July 04 From: San Diego Member No.: 2,332 Region Association: Southern California |
I've got one of each - 14 CS and 75 914/6 conversion. Only thing in common is that they both are mid-engine. I love them both but for different reasons. My 914 is loud and brash and beats me up a bit but always brings a smile to my face. Long drives are not what I do in this car. The Cayman is refined and certainly more modern and excells at being athletic while also being enjoyable on long drives, especially when you want to wring it out in the twisties for a time and then relax and just enjoy the scenery. I'm not tempted to part with either one of them.
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Cairo94507 |
Jan 16 2022, 11:48 AM
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Michael Group: Members Posts: 9,708 Joined: 1-November 08 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 9,712 Region Association: Northern California |
That is one low Cayman! I like both of your cars. I have always thought the Cayman was a great "evolved" 914. I think it may be the best platform Porsche has developed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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davehg |
Jan 16 2022, 02:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 182 Joined: 19-September 17 From: PNW Member No.: 21,443 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I love the look of the original Cayman S, and the new GT4 RS is pretty awesome too, and a relative bargain at $150k compared to the 911 version.
But I agree with Billy - the old cars are what I like to drive. I drove a 997.1 fully expecting to write a check. It was fast and competent but it didn’t light up my brain the way the 914 did. After a few years of tire kicking, I just committed to a one owner 1974 911s. The PCA unwashed warned me about the 2.7 issues, not understanding that the 74 had none of the smog stuff of the 75-77 cars. The car is everything a 997.1 is not and I love how the older cars handle, feel, and sound. |
Spoke |
Jan 16 2022, 02:50 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,972 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
I had my 71 914 at the Pittsburgh Historic Grand Prix car show last July and there were only a couple of 914s out of the approximately 200 Porsche's. Many people stopped by to look at my 914 whereas most of the cars were newer models, most w/o that pesky 3rd peddle for the clutch. You could look down the rows of new Porsche's and they all looked the same. The older 911's and 914's really stood out.
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mlindner |
Jan 16 2022, 03:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,511 Joined: 11-November 11 From: Merrimac, WI Member No.: 13,770 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
PanelBeilly, I've had a 2007 Cayman S for the last five years after having a 1998 993 Cararra S for 18 years. My 914-6 GT Tribute got on the road this last summer and is a blast.....but not a Cayman... did you drive it and at speed, just a great car. Is it better than my GT-6? No, just a better version of it. Best, Mark
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Cal |
Jan 16 2022, 04:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 19-November 14 From: Philadelphia Member No.: 18,138 Region Association: North East States |
Comparing the 914 and the Cayman is like comparing apples and oranges….both cars are entertaining for different reasons. I happen to have a ‘74 2.0L and an ‘08 Cayman and enjoy them for different reasons. I love the 914 for it’s character/ uniqueness and design along with the old school air-cooled engine. The Cayman, while much newer, is a beautiful design and has much more character than anything else at the price point. Living in NE the Cayman affords me the opportunity to enjoy a newer mid-engine Porsche more frequently throughout the year. If you’d like to see what the potential of a 987 Cayman is you should attend a track day and have a PCA instructor take you out for a hot lap….your option might change.
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roblav1 |
Jan 16 2022, 05:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 18-September 12 From: KY Member No.: 14,943 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I miss my 2008 Cayman. On one trip, left ABQ NM at 5:00 PM and arrived in Suffolk, VA 1.5 days later at 5:00 AM. Lost 2 hours in time zone change too. 29 mpg average. Couldn't do that in a 914!
Of the modern Porsches, the early 5 speed base Cayman feels the most like early cars. |
roblav1 |
Jan 16 2022, 05:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 528 Joined: 18-September 12 From: KY Member No.: 14,943 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
At one point, I had both these. I sold the 12K mile 40th Anniversary 911 because I preferred the base Cayman. And I still love my 914 GT all the same!
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Root_Werks |
Jan 16 2022, 06:03 PM
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Village Idiot Group: Members Posts: 8,304 Joined: 25-May 04 From: About 5NM from Canada Member No.: 2,105 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
That's a good assessment Billy, thanks.
I've always like the look and lines of a Cayman. Never had any seat time in one though. I need another car like I need another hole in my head. |
worn |
Jan 16 2022, 06:25 PM
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can't remember Group: Members Posts: 3,145 Joined: 3-June 11 From: Madison, WI Member No.: 13,152 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I have thought about Cayman Comfort, but for long drives the 914 is tough to beat. Luggage space like a SUV. Seats that work for my several damaged vertebrae and discs. Fun to drive. Good range. The 4 cylinder teener has taken me to both Rt 66 and Ockteenerfest. I drove it home from Baltimore with a very messed up fuel pressure regulator. The 3.2 has taken me to West Coast Ramble and Rt 66.
I am old. Real old. But it seems like not old enough. Would like hot and cold running air though. The Caymans may not look as cool as a 914, but they look cool to me. Nother sight of age…. |
Cracker |
Jan 16 2022, 09:43 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,148 Joined: 2-February 10 From: Atlanta (area) Member No.: 11,316 Region Association: South East States |
What most are describing, or lacking, is s-o-u-l. Although all versions of the newer cars are way more capable than the standard 914-6; they are almost too refined. I have tracked at speed nearly all of these and in my opinion the 981 has the most "soul" of these late model variants; and the highest limits. I agree, nothing beats an old car in feeding the senses right down to your ass...
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Jamie |
Jan 16 2022, 10:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,025 Joined: 13-October 04 From: Georgetown,KY Member No.: 2,939 Region Association: South East States |
I consider my 2008 base Cayman to be an evolution of the 914 design had it remained in production. The Cayman is most certainly more reliable and comfortable for distance travel, and my Cayenne diesel an even better improvement for serious daily use and long distance travel. I'm fortunate to have this variety of Porsches, each a different driving experience and source of enjoyment of ownership.
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emerygt350 |
Jan 16 2022, 10:10 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,070 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States |
There is something to being able to redline gear after gear through corners and on the straights.. all the way up to 70? all day that makes a 914 so much fun. Try and drive a modern car like that and you get arrested or dead. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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VegasRacer |
Jan 16 2022, 11:00 PM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,477 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
I am surprised (and a little disappointed) that you didn't like the Cayman Billy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
If you find something more engaging, plese let me know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) There is NOTHING like a 914 (with a flat 6) if you are seeking Permagrin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
slivel |
Jan 17 2022, 12:43 PM
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Old car....... older driver Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 10-July 04 From: San Diego Member No.: 2,332 Region Association: Southern California |
I am surprised (and a little disappointed) that you didn't like the Cayman Billy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) If you find something more engaging, plese let me know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) There is NOTHING like a 914 (with a flat 6) if you are seeking Permagrin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Agree with the flat 6 comment. Billy DID say that he rode in the car for 2 hours. I contend that if he were in the driver's seat for that length of time he might have a more favorable opinion of the Cayman platform. The six in the Cayman also sings a beautiful song. |
GeorgeRud |
Jan 17 2022, 12:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Unfortunately, I aged out of my 914-6s, so now have to ride in a Pig (958 Cayenne). I was fortunate enough to have several 914s and 911s over the years, and I think they’ve been losing that light feel and ‘soul’ since the early 70s. A good friend has a Cayman and a ‘72 911, and he often feels the same.
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PlaysWithCars |
Jan 19 2022, 12:40 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 522 Joined: 9-November 03 From: Southeast of Seattle Member No.: 1,323 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
@Slivel I agree the only similarity is the mid engine. Otherwise the differences are black and white. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
Seriously though, my buddy has a GT4 and its a respectable beast of a car, but too refined and not as engaging as my 914-6. |
wonkipop |
Jan 19 2022, 02:24 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,239 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
That is one low Cayman! I like both of your cars. I have always thought the Cayman was a great "evolved" 914. I think it may be the best platform Porsche has developed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) with you on that. its the best thing they sell right now. |
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