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track day coming up, what do I need to do to prepare? |
914 RZ-1 |
Apr 20 2021, 07:04 PM
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Porsche Padawan Group: Members Posts: 682 Joined: 17-December 14 From: Santa Clarita, CA Member No.: 18,230 Region Association: Southern California |
I have a track day scheduled at the end of May. It's a driver's education day for me, so I will be doing laps around a track with an instructor.
Here's what the email said to bring: Hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, at least a half a gallon of water, helmet (unless you are renting one), long sleeve non-synthetic shirt, long sleeve non-synthetic pants (or approved racing suit) close-toed/flat soled shoes with leather uppers, driver’s license, signed tech inspection form, event schedule, track map and anything else you think you will need. I am renting a helmet, but may end up borrowing one if it fits and is current. I have a shop nearby that is doing the tech inspection. QUESTIONS 1. Are tennis/running shoes ok? 2. Are jeans ok? 3. I was told to take everything out of the car. Should I leave the spare tire in? What about the jack? I plan on removing everything else. 4. Should I bring tools? I have a toolbox that is about 24" x 10" x 12" that I keep in the car, but I can take it out. Is there a place to put it or should I just take a few tools or none? 5. Pack a lunch? 6. Bring a chair? 7. Do they have places to put your stuff? Here is what they said about car numbers (I picked #501): Car Numbers Before you will be allowed on the track, you will need to have car numbers displayed on both sides and on the rear of your car. If you do not have numbers already, painter’s tape will be available from Suesan in the garage. Numbers need to be a contrasting color to your paint, easily visible by corner workers. 8-10” minimum height and 1” width on each side and 6” minimum height numbers visible on the rear of your car. MORE QUESTIONS 8. Can I use the yellow painter's tape? I have a light gray car. If not, what is best? They state they have tape, but I want to know if there's something better that will have no chance of removing any of the paint. It's not factory paint, just quality single stage I did myself. I thought I might try magnetic strips (the ones you get at Home Depot/Lowes that are sticky on one side). 9. Where do the numbers go on our cars? I'm assuming the doors, but where on the rear? The window? The space between the taillights (that's not 6")? 10. Do I tip the instructor? If so, how much? 11. Anything I need to do to the car? Oil is fresh. 12. What else can anyone who's done this tell me I need to bring/know/be mindful of/etc? Thanks! Here are my edits based on my experience, in case anyone else is doing this for the first time: 1. Yes, tennis shoes are fine. 2. Yes, jeans were fine. I think on a hot day I'd wear something with thin material. 3. I left the spare in. Mine is bolted down very well. I keep the jack in my tool box. I have an after-market scissor-type that's small and light. 4. Yes, bring tools. I carried my car tools with me and just left them in my parking space. They kept my picnic blanket from blowing away. I also put my wallet in in it. No one will steal anything. 5. Yes, pack a lunch. They had a roach coach there, but I prefer to eat better. I brought PBJ and fruit and a granola bar with iced tea to drink. They did provide water on ice, but I wanted something with flavor at lunch. 6. Yes, bring a chair. It was nice to sit after a session. It was also a place to put stuff on and under. 7. The only place to put your stuff is your parking space. I brought a moving blanket and used it as a picnic blanket. I kept my paperwork in one of those clipboards that has a storage compartment. 8. Blue tape was fine for car numbers. No issues with the paint coming off or anything. 9. I had to put the numbers on the side doors, hood and trunk. 10. No tips needed. Just listen to what they tell you and ask questions. 11. I had fresh brake pads and fluid and made sure the tire pressure was correct. Make sure the battery is secure, too. You are whipping the car around and things will come loose or fly around. 12. I didn't need the tire pressure gauges, but I will bring one next time just to check them for safety reasons. I thought I had one in my tool box, but didn't find it. 13. I drove my own line and my own speed. I saw cars in places they shouldn't have been a few times, but I held my line. You need to be predictable. 14. Get a good night's sleep before. Rest, preferably in the shade, between sessions. Drink water. You will be tired, hungry and thirsty the next day. |
d914 |
Apr 20 2021, 08:56 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,331 Joined: 12-July 03 From: Atlanta, ga Member No.: 904 Region Association: South East States |
I have a track day scheduled at the end of May. It's a driver's education day for me, so I will be doing laps around a track with an instructor. Here's what the email said to bring: Hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, at least a half a gallon of water, helmet (unless you are renting one), long sleeve non-synthetic shirt, long sleeve non-synthetic pants (or approved racing suit) close-toed/flat soled shoes with leather uppers, driver’s license, signed tech inspection form, event schedule, track map and anything else you think you will need. I am renting a helmet, but may end up borrowing one if it fits and is current. I have a shop nearby that is doing the tech inspection. QUESTIONS 1. Are tennis/running shoes ok? cotton or leather best 2. Are jeans ok? yes see #! 3. I was told to take everything out of the car. Should I leave the spare tire in? What about the jack? I plan on removing everything else. U can bring with you but take out for track time 4. Should I bring tools? I have a toolbox that is about 24" x 10" x 12" that I keep in the car, but I can take it out. Is there a place to put it or should I just take a few tools or none? yes but take out 5. Pack a lunch? yes 6. Bring a chair? yes 10x10 shade thingy good also 7. Do they have places to put your stuff? no car guys,, nobody will touch your stuff Here is what they said about car numbers (I picked #501): Car Numbers Before you will be allowed on the track, you will need to have car numbers displayed on both sides and on the rear of your car. If you do not have numbers already, painter’s tape will be available from Suesan in the garage. Numbers need to be a contrasting color to your paint, easily visible by corner workers. 8-10” minimum height and 1” width on each side and 6” minimum height numbers visible on the rear of your car. MORE QUESTIONS 8. Can I use the yellow painter's tape? I have a light gray car. If not, what is best? They state they have tape, but I want to know if there's something better that will have no chance of removing any of the paint. It's not factory paint, just quality single stage I did myself. I thought I might try magnetic strips (the ones you get at Home Depot/Lowes that are sticky on one side). tape good, if going to be a regular ting get numbers 9. Where do the numbers go on our cars? I'm assuming the doors, but where on the rear? The window? The space between the taillights (that's not 6")? doors front hood 10. Do I tip the instructor? If so, how much? no 11. Anything I need to do to the car? Oil is fresh. fresh oil. brake pads, check play front bearings, tie down battery, fresh fan belt.. any thing stupid that could ruin weekend 12. What else can anyone who's done this tell me I need to bring/know/be mindful of/etc? torque wrench for tires, air pressure gauge, small compressor if u have, sun screen, camera, hat, sunscreen, water Hope this helps Thanks! |
MM1 |
Apr 20 2021, 11:45 PM
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914 obsession continues Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-May 18 From: Thousand Oaks, CA Member No.: 22,105 Region Association: Southern California |
Scotch blue painters tape has worked flawlessly for me. Spring for Scotch only - especially if your car is painted with 50’s Porsche Grey (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evilgrin.gif)
Contoured neck brace collar like this one I bought 15 years ago and have used (mostly on the motorcycle and the slingshot) countless times. I have a bunch of un-contoured ones . . .they stay in the closet. Although I know you’ve been religiously devoted to those F1 driver-style neck exercises for the past month (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) , since you’re renting a helmet, it probably won’t come with a Hans device (obviously ideal), so give your neck some relief (notice I didn’t say, “a break”) and get one of these. . .and load up on ibuprofen a for few days before. Shoes :running shoes? - no. If tennis shoes, then make sure they have a super thin sole. Although a friend’s mechanic (German Ferrari mechanic - bit of a charlatan) once gave me a pair of Ferrari-branded driving shoes (obviously I taped over the “shields”) that worked well with an interesting raised ribbed heel design, I use leather loafers or even grippy (leather) slippers, and frankly they feel better with the flat sole. Opinions may differ. Good phone mount to take those awesome videos. . . unless you have a go-pro. Chair, cooler to elevate those tired dogs, umbrella (preferably on a heavy steel stand - I know, a pain to transport, but saved me at a few xcrosses) , more protein snacks and more water and most of all. . . a few packs of baby wipes (and a trashbag) to get most of the grease off your hands before you mess up that steering wheel that you’ll need a sure grip on. Hope you get a good instructor, and if you’re heading to the big track at Willow- experiment with hitting the “high line” after you “shoot the Bud”-just take it easy on the last turn before the straight-the instructors’ll drill that home - take it to heart, Padawan. Looking forward to pics and vids. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
falcor75 |
Apr 21 2021, 12:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,578 Joined: 22-November 12 From: Sweden Member No.: 15,176 Region Association: Scandinavia |
Change your brake fluid (flush the entire system with new fluid) if you havent done that in the last two years.
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Racer |
Apr 21 2021, 06:50 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I have a track day scheduled at the end of May. It's a driver's education day for me, so I will be doing laps around a track with an instructor. - Awesome! QUOTE Here's what the email said to bring: Hat, sunglasses, sunscreen, at least a half a gallon of water, helmet (unless you are renting one), long sleeve non-synthetic shirt, long sleeve non-synthetic pants (or approved racing suit) close-toed/flat soled shoes with leather uppers, driver’s license, signed tech inspection form, event schedule, track map and anything else you think you will need. Sounds good so far! QUOTE I am renting a helmet, but may end up borrowing one if it fits and is current. I have a shop nearby that is doing the tech inspection. A good fitting helmet is preferred and this year, the new 2020 rated helmets are available. Some groups allow Motorcycle helmets for beginners. Others will require SA2015 or SA2020 rated helmets QUOTE QUESTIONS 1. Are tennis/running shoes ok? 2. Are jeans ok? 3. I was told to take everything out of the car. Should I leave the spare tire in? What about the jack? I plan on removing everything else. 4. Should I bring tools? I have a toolbox that is about 24" x 10" x 12" that I keep in the car, but I can take it out. Is there a place to put it or should I just take a few tools or none? 5. Pack a lunch? 6. Bring a chair? 7. Do they have places to put your stuff? 1) - yes 2) - yes 3) - Personally, I pull it all out. Jack, Tools, Floormats, Spare. If you leave the spare in make sure its secured. Some like it as part of the crumple zone up front should things go wrong. I wanted the 40+ lbs out of the car. 4) - tools/parts - you know you car. You could be one of very few or no 914s. I'd bring some basics just in case. You don't mention how close the track is (ie, AAA if you break down; your trailering or driving to the event etc. ) 5) - Lunch - depends on the track. Most have some kind of snack bar. Bring your own if you prefer or don't want to risk it. BRING WATER.. keep hydrated. outside in the sun all day will tire you out. 6) - yup.. bring a folding chair to have someplace to sit between rungroups/class sessions. 7) Most places are first come/first serve on paddock spaces. Some tracks have garages.. and some events with garages charge for garage space. This should all be in the info the event provider offers. Some are fully paved.. some are gravel. -- Bring a large blue tarp to put all your stuff on (or to use to cover your stuff should it rain). Or plastic bins to store can be helpful too. QUOTE Here is what they said about car numbers (I picked #501): Car Numbers Before you will be allowed on the track, you will need to have car numbers displayed on both sides and on the rear of your car. If you do not have numbers already, painter’s tape will be available from Suesan in the garage. Numbers need to be a contrasting color to your paint, easily visible by corner workers. 8-10” minimum height and 1” width on each side and 6” minimum height numbers visible on the rear of your car. Contrasting. If you can't see it from 100+ feet away, than neither can the corner worker. If needed "front or back", just put on the trunklids. Yes, DOOR placement is ideal for "side" numbers. QUOTE MORE QUESTIONS 8. Can I use the yellow painter's tape? I have a light gray car. If not, what is best? They state they have tape, but I want to know if there's something better that will have no chance of removing any of the paint. It's not factory paint, just quality single stage I did myself. I thought I might try magnetic strips (the ones you get at Home Depot/Lowes that are sticky on one side). 9. Where do the numbers go on our cars? I'm assuming the doors, but where on the rear? The window? The space between the taillights (that's not 6")? 10. Do I tip the instructor? If so, how much? 11. Anything I need to do to the car? Oil is fresh. 12. What else can anyone who's done this tell me I need to bring/know/be mindful of/etc? 8) - See above about contrast and how far away you can see them. Painters tape works best to not take off paint. Magnets can damage paint and if they are too weak, they will come off.. necessitating you to you a little bit of tape to hold them on. 9) - See above 10) - NO. They are compensated by often not having to pay an entrance fee, or reduced fee. They do it cause they like to and want others to have fun. imho, tipping is a it insulting. 11) - The pre event tech should look over the car for leaks, rust, belts, and other mechanical basics. You will want new brake fluid (ideally DOT 4) and maybe new brake pads. Track use will consume tires and brakes.. it will reward you with fun. The better mechanical condition of you car, the more fun you will have because you won't be fixing it. And remember - EVERYONE there was a newbie at one time. Just say hello.. ask the guy/girl next to you if you have questions or keep asking around till someone can help you. Most are friendly with tools, experience etc. |
GeorgeRud |
Apr 21 2021, 08:31 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I’d recommend leaving the spare in place and bolted down as it is part of the crush structure of the car.
Though I’ve never heard of tipping your instructor, most would not turn down a snack (or perhaps a refreshing adult beverage) after the event if allowed. |
Blue6 |
Apr 21 2021, 09:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 3-October 13 From: SoCal Member No.: 16,470 Region Association: Southern California |
What track are you going to? Buttonwillow, Willow Springs, Auto Club. If Willow Springs, will they be using streets, or big Willow?
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scallyk9 |
Apr 21 2021, 10:17 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 313 Joined: 16-October 16 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Member No.: 20,499 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
PCA-PNWR is requiring that brake fluid be no longer that one year old. Interesting!
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Racer |
Apr 21 2021, 10:32 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Northern Virginia Member No.: 1,073 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
PCA-PNWR is requiring that brake fluid be no longer that one year old. Interesting! My local PCA region mentions: Brake fluid to be Flushed within 90 days of the event (3 months) - exceptions are approved racing fluids (ATE Blue/200, Motul or SRF etc) which are allowed 180 days. I've always flushed at the beginning of the season and bled pre event to get air out. Here is a link to our regions tech form as an example of items that are checked: 1) Pre event on a lift and 2) at the event Not sure how much of this is standardized across PCA (thank you insurance underwriters (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) but its all reasonable when you put your car and yourself on track. https://pcapotomac.org/images/PCA_PotomacTechForm.pdf |
Andyrew |
Apr 21 2021, 03:45 PM
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Spooling.... Please wait Group: Members Posts: 13,376 Joined: 20-January 03 From: Riverbank, Ca Member No.: 172 Region Association: Northern California |
Do a pre test.
Load your car and then unload for your pre test "race". You want anything not strapped down removed from the car. Imagine yourself putting these items on dirt/asphalt on the track paddock. Most people put down a blanket, or cover there stuff with a blanket. Once you have the load/unload down, go for a test drive. Drive it HARD on the corners and brakes. See if anything shakes loose. Also pre test all your camera stuff if your going to setup cameras. Be aware once your run is ready to go You have to get to the grid NOW. Then after your run that next run is going to come up VERY shortly. Take any restroom breaks needed and make sure you and the car are ready for the next stint. Chances are your going to have the slowest car on the track, so be aware and dont be embarrassed. Just have fun! Your instructor will help, make sure you ask for a ride from your instructor or anyone able to give a ride. Its much different from the passenger seat! |
Justinp71 |
Apr 21 2021, 04:32 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
Lots of good info on here and yes really you will just be getting used to the track experience. Like Andrew said don't get frustrated with cars passing you even a 90's civic track ready can fly around the race track.
Also if you are tall you can take the seat pad out and replace it with a piece of foam or towel and it will hold you in the seat better. And keep an eye on your engine temps. The racetrack is a lot harder on air cooled motors than just driving around. If you are not really sure (no temp gauge) maybe shift early and give 75% throttle during the second half of the run if its hot out. |
wndsrfr |
Apr 21 2021, 07:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: 30-April 09 From: Rescue, Virginia Member No.: 10,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Overfill the oil by 1/2 quart....for radial tires set pressure to 29psi cold.
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Krieger |
Apr 21 2021, 07:52 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,685 Joined: 24-May 04 From: Santa Rosa CA Member No.: 2,104 Region Association: None |
Study the track and the location of the workers stations. Study the flags and what each one means. Always check your mirrors when on track. Do your best to drive the line even though you are not fast enough to use it. Try to relax and listen to what your instructor has to say. There will be a ton of new input going into your brain. Take time to process in between runs. It sounds different over 90 mph with the windows open and sticky tire bits from other cars flinging into your fender wells. I bet you can drive all day on the street and know when your at 35 mph or 65 mph. 80, 100, 120 are entirely different visually. A lot of tracks don't have trees or other familiar things that you use in your periphery to judge. Check your oil temp and pressure on the main straight. Make sure you have enough gas. You will maybe get 10-12 mpg! Live the dream!
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Dave_Darling |
Apr 22 2021, 03:04 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,974 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
If your brake pads have less than half the original thickness, I suggest replacing them. If your brake fluid is more than a month or two old, I very very strongly recommend replacing it.
There's nothing that redefines the phrase "OH S**T" quite like going into turn 1 at Thunderhill at triple-digit speeds and having the brake pedal go straight to the floor. I thought that six-month-old fluid was good enough. I was wrong. Remember above all that you are there to have fun! Remember to take a bit of time to just enjoy things. It's OK to do things you are a bit uncomfortable with, but not so good to do things that have your brain saying "Oh hell naw!". If you are driving there and home again, let your instructor know. There's a good chance they will adjust their expectations for someone who needs the car to drive home again. Before you go, watch some videos of people running the track you are going to. That will give you a decent idea of what your eyes will pick up, and help you to learn which way the track goes. ("At this corner worker station, the turn is to the left!") If you haven't done autoX or similar car-control events before, know that it will be overwhelming. There's a good chance you won't even be able to think while driving. Adrenaline is a heckuva drug! That's normal, and it gets better with more seat time. Good luck, and have fun! --DD |
Justinp71 |
Apr 22 2021, 05:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 11-October 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 2,922 Region Association: None |
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Montreal914 |
Apr 22 2021, 09:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,532 Joined: 8-August 10 From: Claremont, CA Member No.: 12,023 Region Association: Southern California |
Start last in the lineup, you will get a couple of turns before the 911s and Boxsters start to show up in your mirror.
Take advantage of the parade lap at lunch to practice your line at slow speed without the stress of cars in your back wanting to pass you. Fun to look at your time improve during the day. Far from being an expert here, just enjoyed a few PDS with POC and these were the best driving experiences. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Sometimes there would be another 914, but mostly Boxsters. The good news is that you get to be best in class (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Have tons of fun! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
dr.tim |
Apr 23 2021, 10:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 17-December 11 From: Butte, America Member No.: 13,907 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Lots of good advice in here.
Having instructed for 15 years, this is what I think is important with respect to Q's 10-12: --Make sure your car is in top shape. This is for safety and so that you can drive it home. Brake fluid and pads are important, but don't neglect the soft lines. (Brakes are really important.) Suspension is next. Engine just keeps you going / gets you home (not a safety item). --Drive your own line: Avoid the temptation to follow the car in front of you, unless they are doing something right, or is your instructor. --Go your own speed. Be aware of (and avoid) trying to keep up with the car ahead of you... red mist. --Try to remain relaxed / not tense. You have a very tactile machine; Let the car 'talk' to you. --Take advantage of any time you get with two people in the car, whether in the right seat or the left. --How to 'tip' your instructor: LISTEN. You are there to learn, so have a teachable heart. Understand that the instructor's mantra is: "Don't try to impress me because you can't; don't try to scare me because I already am." If your instructor is exceptional, thank them, and let the chief instructor / organizing body know. Buy them a drink if opportunity arises. --As in all things, some instructors are better than others. In your area, SoCal ACNA has a good/passionate corps. I may be with them at Buttonwillow this fall.. --It is a sip from the firehose, but have fun and learn as much as you can. |
infraredcalvin |
Apr 23 2021, 08:25 PM
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Distracted Member Group: Members Posts: 1,496 Joined: 25-August 08 From: Ladera Ranch, CA Member No.: 9,463 Region Association: Southern California |
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The most I’ve ever learned was sitting in the right seat of my car while the instructor drove the track. You have to have the right instructor that’ll treat your car right, but its amazing seeing what they are able to get the car to do, it gives you an idea of what it’s really capable of, and how far from the limit you are actually driving. |
914 RZ-1 |
May 29 2021, 12:54 PM
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Porsche Padawan Group: Members Posts: 682 Joined: 17-December 14 From: Santa Clarita, CA Member No.: 18,230 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks so much for all the advice and tips!
I've changed the brake fluid, the pads on all 4 corners, and the rear discs. The tires are pumped to 29 PSI. Oil is good. The windows are clean. I took everything out of the car except the registration and insurance paperwork, the jack and emergency lights. I'm bringing a chair, moving blanket for a ground pad/picnic blanket, lunch and lots of water. I'm the only 914 and the oldest car there. I rented a helmet. I passed tech inspection (thanks R2 Racing in Santa Clarita!) I go for preregistration and another tech inspection tonight. The event is at Willow Springs. We're doing the streets of Willow, CCW direction. I will be using tape for the numbers. I have my AAA card in case the $h!+ hits the fan. I'm debating whether I should bring my car toolbox with tools, Thoughts? I'd take it there and just leave it by my chair. I'll try and report back for anyone else thinking of doing this. |
wndsrfr |
May 29 2021, 04:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,427 Joined: 30-April 09 From: Rescue, Virginia Member No.: 10,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Thanks so much for all the advice and tips! I have my AAA card in case the $h!+ hits the fan. I'm debating whether I should bring my car toolbox with tools, Thoughts? I'd take it there and just leave it by my chair. I'll try and report back for anyone else thinking of doing this. Definitely take the toolbox--that way you won't need it! Looking forward to the full report..... |
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