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> Shift rod - Update- new brass bushings, and another option-a 911 coupler from Rauch & Spiegel, Is this a normal looking rod? And how the heck do I get the pin out?
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post Jan 16 2020, 04:57 PM
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A few issues here , after the bushing disintegrated I ordered new stuff, a new firewall bushing from RIX914PARTS and other goodies from 914rubber.com, and a new brass bushing for the coupling, however I can’t get the pin out, and I’m going to mess up the pin end and it’s not going to slide thru if I do that- so I’m going to have to find a press I guess somewhere?
1. Should it be that tight ?
2. Is this a normal weld end?


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post Jan 16 2020, 05:25 PM
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lube the pin, support the coupler in a vice with wood to cushion and drive out the pin, Replace the coupler bushings with the special delrin variety with the completely round hole
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post Jan 16 2020, 06:05 PM
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That was one of the more frustrating tasks I've had to do. Getting the pin out was surprisingly difficult. I think I ended up putting it in a vice with a drift and using the floor jack handle as leverage on the vice handle. Penetrating oil, heat, and crank a little on the vice. Lil' bugger finally let go.

My bushing disintegrated at VA state safety inspection when the guy at the garage couldn't figure out how to get into 1st gear and ended up man-handling it. I've got the brass one now.

Good luck, Phil.
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post Jan 16 2020, 06:14 PM
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You will never regret getting a press. It’s one of those things you didn’t know you needed until you have one.
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post Jan 16 2020, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 16 2020, 07:14 PM) *

You will never regret getting a press. It’s one of those things you didn’t know you needed until you have one.

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post Jan 16 2020, 06:36 PM
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2. Normal

The coupler is not that strong. It's better to support the rod. I like to use a long socket under the pin - basically hammer or press the pin into the socket.
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post Jan 16 2020, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Jan 16 2020, 07:36 PM) *

2. Normal

The coupler is not that strong. It's better to support the rod. I like to use a long socket under the pin - basically hammer or press the pin into the socket.

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post Jan 16 2020, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(poorsche914 @ Jan 16 2020, 10:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Jan 16 2020, 07:36 PM) *

2. Normal

The coupler is not that strong. It's better to support the rod. I like to use a long socket under the pin - basically hammer or press the pin into the socket.

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I was just thinking that’s what I would do. I do see that George at AA and Sierra Madre have new couplers if I damage mine but let’s try not to do that- AND you guys are right, on my other thread I posted the demise of the coupler bushing, someone noted the firewall bushing looked like there was some space and indeed there is some play so I called Rick earlier in the week and have brand new one of his firewall bushings. I know Chris Foley makes great stuff but for now I am staying closer to stock. If I were autox this car I would do his whole system, but for now I think this will all be fine.
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post Jan 16 2020, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 16 2020, 06:14 PM) *

You will never regret getting a press. It’s one of those things you didn’t know you needed until you have one.


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post Jan 16 2020, 11:04 PM
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I've done a bunch of those. I use two sockets, one for a "cup" and the other for a pin. Make sure the pin isn't pitted badly or it can chew on the bushing.
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post Jan 17 2020, 08:53 AM
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Dr. Phil,

A couple of links I found helpful:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...56765&st=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0I5HOBvQbg

I used the vise and socket method....
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post Jan 18 2020, 11:32 AM
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From the pictures the pin ends look pretty distorted. That won't make the task any easier.
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post Jan 18 2020, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jan 18 2020, 09:32 AM) *

From the pictures the pin ends look pretty distorted. That won't make the task any easier.


Good point. So you want to make sure the pin doesn't have any burrs on it that would give you trouble pressing it through. If both sides have boogers, you can get by cleaning off the press through side.
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post Jan 18 2020, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(IronHillRestorations @ Jan 18 2020, 01:14 PM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jan 18 2020, 09:32 AM) *

From the pictures the pin ends look pretty distorted. That won't make the task any easier.


Good point. So you want to make sure the pin doesn't have any burrs on it that would give you trouble pressing it through. If both sides have boogers, you can get by cleaning off the press through side.


Only one side is like that, so should be able to press it thru on other side.
I don’t think the pins are available. There are several different couplers on line, not sure any but the OEM one from Sierra Madre is the correct length etc.
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post Jan 18 2020, 03:26 PM
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https://sierramadrecollection.com/Shift-Cou...-88-p22232.html

Any reason why these could not be used, looks like comes with coupler bushing and pin


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post Jan 18 2020, 04:19 PM
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Why replace a perfectly good part ?
You still have to press the shaft out of the old assembly.
We had looked at making these but got down to that question.
Perhaps we make an entire assembly?
Easy swap out.
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post Jan 18 2020, 07:29 PM
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Six inch vice, the two socket method....and that would be my go to even though I do have a press.
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post Jan 18 2020, 08:59 PM
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1/2 step forward and 4 steps backwards with those fancy ones. Cutting, welding?, tapping?, ruining a functional rod? Dress the pin with a file, put in the new bushings and be done with it. Put glycerin on the pin and bushings.
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post Jan 19 2020, 06:26 AM
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DrPhil, if all fails, I do have a nice one for sale $75.00. MarkAttached Image
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post Jan 19 2020, 07:57 AM
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Personally I’d replace it since if the repairs are not spot on it tweak the alignment of everything.

Not that expensive...
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